at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
Tootired2care, I tip my hat.
Even if god is real, he's a dick. The more people who don't believe in him, the better. If he is anything like he has shown himself to be since Jesus supposedly came here or how he is described in the OT, he does not deserve worship. He should go back to where he came from and stay there. Humans have done more to help their situation than he EVER did.
i have heard that a lot of the english congregations in mexico are shutting down... they are condensing 5 congregations into one, or in some areas even disbanding the only english congregation.
jw's who have been living in mexico for many years and probably were sheltered by being in the english congregations will now have to move to spanish congregations.... .
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A big selling point of tribe studies in the English congs is that it will help the student learn and practice English. May e they are tired of giving free English lessons to people who speak Spanish just fine anyway?
Besides, the white folks who go vacation pioneering like to party a bit more than the locals, maybe a bad influence?
My family and I went to Mexico for a few months years back... They pioneered, I partied!
up to about 5 minutes ago... i still had the notion that maybe jw's predicted something and got it right... that the league of nations was going to rise and become the united nations.
i think that jw prophecies/predictions are like a shotgun: shoots many projectiles, one of them has got to hit.
you cannot predict 5 different things and then, when one of them gets partly fulfilled, drop the other 4.5 things, change the 1/2 thing you predicted that was right and make it seem like that was the only thing you predicted, and make the entire one point fit after the fact.. reading watchtower literature throughout the years (1879 till now), and then coming here and getting awesome explanations from people like leolaia and other researchers, i finally understand the claim that most apostate websites make: the wt has a 100% prediction failure rate.. they were lucky that something big happened in 1914... but now i am much wiser and i know that everything they predicted for 1914 did not turn out as they predicted... 1914 has been a date with many different hats... from the start of armageddon, to the beginning of the last days... etc.... thank you very much jwn for completely opening my mind.
I believe at first 1914 was predicted to be the very end of Armageddon.. The very end of human rule on the earth, to be replaced by heavenly rule. This was held for some years after walrus sell died in 1916. Rutherford claimed that "the kingdom is now already 9 years old." (Paraphrasing)
This does not matter to Dubs, nor does doctrine. The GB could come it and say, "we made it all up! None of this is true, god is fake. Haha!" And there would still be an impressive number that stay, maybe even start a splinter group.
You Are right though, it is no exaggeration to say that the WT and all involved have a 100% success rate... Of failure
sorry if this has been asked before but i would love to know the current ratio on this forum.. i'm a believer/christian former jw for 45 years... born in .
what are you now and what were you?.
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I, for one would love to see a thread where Cofty and SBF go at it. It wouldn't accomplish anything, but would sure be interesting.
Oh and I prefer the term 'Secular Humanist.'
so, i am talking to a long time friend, you know, the non-judgmental type that doesn't really mind that i don't go to many meetings and am never out in service.
he tells me that the annual meeting is coming up and that the whole congregation is invited...well, at least the active "approved" whole congregation.
he speaks with an excitement that puzzles me, like he just got invited to the locker room of his favorite football team when they won the superbowl.
I'm with Bungi Bill, likely much ado about nothing. The GB likes to put shit like this together to excite the masses, only to scoop out the same old crap. Just think of every "special talk" you have ever heard.
it's absurd to think jehovah's slave should take heed or listen to advice from the ever growing mob leaving the organization.
still, it's your problem you can't keep pace with our present truth as we continue to evolve.
why should we listen to the the vast army of apostates and evil slaves, they don't want a gente, more humble org, they need to fight fire with fire!
Aunt Connie, you are the best kind of apostate. Keep it up
anybody else in the situation i am?
me and the wife go to a hall that is pretty "hands off".
i have not really been out in service for probably 1.5 years and my wife has went out maybe 3 times in the last year.
Yeah I hear you there buddy. I haven't been in service for a good year and a half, and attend probably 15% of the meetings. Wife gets to probably 40% and goes in service once a month. She's a 'social witness' and I'm doing my best to hide my hatred for religion. The good friends we do have are super coolinto go on vacations together, and think nothing of skipping meetings and going away for the weekend instead.
The weird part? The elders are completely leaving us alone! We had a shep call like 10 months ago to 'encourage' me, that's it. Do you get the 'its nice to see you here' handshakes when you do go to the hall?
"Spiritually immature" my ass!
Is your wife still a believer? If not how did you get through to her?
so there is a rumor going around about 1914 and its possible demise!.
i cant help but think of the many and i say many divorces (not to make light of the matter) that jw families have had to deal with among their ranks over the years.. however, knowing how long the wtbts and 1914 have been together and the thought of mother (wtbts) doing away with her man (1914) after nearly 100 years of marriage is truly heart breaking for some.
many old-timers probably still think of the old days when they were like any other happy couple; inseparable, always holding hands, romantic and the like.
Read the july 15th WT... They won't be dropping 1914 anytime soon
But WHY? If owl done concedes to your idea of a benefactor, how long till you're trying to steer that person towards the god of the bible?
Besides... The oxygen/carbon ratios have changed many times through history. Just because our air is food for us now doesn't mean if air was a bit different, we couldn't have evolved to breathe that air perfectly. How things fit together is not evidence of any creator, just of our evolution working properly. Evolution didn't need someone to help it start, because by its very nature it makes things work out or die.
In summary, your question is pointless. Good try, keep thinking and searching. The truth is right under your nose
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
Well said, jgnat. The title and OP of this thread, as well as every post by the OP have been dripping with arrogance.. The worst kind of arrogance. I'm glad the OP didn't retreat into the realm of "warm fuzzy feelings" or "Christ this and that." He outright challenged a very established and proven scientific system saying we need to "get current" and read this silly book written by a fool. It is full of the same garbage pseudo science creationist books have always had. Not a single rational argument among them. So far, I don't see the scientific community in an uproar, rewriting textbooks and throwing away decades worth of research all because of under qualified preacher wrote a book.
The OP then goes on to ignore all of the well written rebuttals to his nonsense, and cut and paste more of this garbage. You see, this thread would have been a big eye opener for me when I was waking up. Even if it didn't make me disbelieve the bible, it would have made me dig deeper to find the truth. It is for this reason that anyone posts on this thread still at all.
